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		<title>By: Friday Finds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday Finds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 10 Ways to Keep Me from Discovering Your Church : Mark Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>10 Ways to Keep Me from Discovering Your Church : Mark Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Gallegos</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Gallegos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree 100%!!  Wife and I are seeking as laypeople to combat this situation.
Anybody have suggestions on how we can encourage are fellow travelers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree 100%!!  Wife and I are seeking as laypeople to combat this situation.<br />
Anybody have suggestions on how we can encourage are fellow travelers?</p>
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		<title>By: Marietta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marietta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to have your permission to use your list in the writing of my Master&#039;s Degree Thesis on &quot;How Visitors are Treated in Churches.&quot;  I have been visiting churches each Sunday for about 10 months (with my own little survey), and it is amazing how differently each one welcomes (or ignores) the guests.  Your list hits the highlights, but we know there are so many more ways in which a church can encourage outsiders to &quot;give them a shot&quot; when searching for a home church.  Great post.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to have your permission to use your list in the writing of my Master&#8217;s Degree Thesis on &#8220;How Visitors are Treated in Churches.&#8221;  I have been visiting churches each Sunday for about 10 months (with my own little survey), and it is amazing how differently each one welcomes (or ignores) the guests.  Your list hits the highlights, but we know there are so many more ways in which a church can encourage outsiders to &#8220;give them a shot&#8221; when searching for a home church.  Great post.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://churchredone.com/10-ways-to-keep-me-from-discovering-your-church-26/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Joshua. I&#039;m new to your site. My girlfriend and I recently chose a church home. I can relate man! Btw check out my blog. Let me know what you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Joshua. I&#8217;m new to your site. My girlfriend and I recently chose a church home. I can relate man! Btw check out my blog. Let me know what you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  I especially dislike not having the phone answered at church..and people do read the newspapers..I would like our church to advertise more.  Do we have a &quot;religious editor&quot; in Vancouver for the Columbian? An interview with the local pastors would be great. Better signage is important.  People do read reader boards.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  I especially dislike not having the phone answered at church..and people do read the newspapers..I would like our church to advertise more.  Do we have a &#8220;religious editor&#8221; in Vancouver for the Columbian? An interview with the local pastors would be great. Better signage is important.  People do read reader boards.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great list. The website point is increasingly essential, and at Internet Evangelism Day, we have developed a self-assessment tool to help churches create sites that can relate to outsiders:
http://ied.gospelcom.net/church-site-desigh.php

Your point about not answering the phone also extends to not answering emails - a depressing number of churches seem incapable of doing this!

Bless you

Tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great list. The website point is increasingly essential, and at Internet Evangelism Day, we have developed a self-assessment tool to help churches create sites that can relate to outsiders:<br />
<a href="http://ied.gospelcom.net/church-site-desigh.php" rel="nofollow">http://ied.gospelcom.net/church-site-desigh.php</a></p>
<p>Your point about not answering the phone also extends to not answering emails &#8211; a depressing number of churches seem incapable of doing this!</p>
<p>Bless you</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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		<title>By: Kata Iwannhn &#187; Web Browsing</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 21:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 21:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. # 9: I sometimes have a hard time answering the question, &quot;What does your church believe?&quot; because it&#039;s too general.  I&#039;ve also had people say things like &quot;What kind of church is your church?&quot; or &quot;Well, how is your church different from all other churches?&quot;

I usually try to get more information from the people before I give an answer.  For instance, when they say &quot;What kind of church is your church?&quot; I have no idea what they mean.  Do they mean what denomination?

I hate identifying our church by denomination, largely because people tend to pigeonhold and stereotype.  If I say &quot;Reformed,&quot; some of them will say to themselves &quot;Oh, yeah.  That Calvinist stuff.  Not interested.&quot;  Others will say, &quot;Oh, good.  I grew up Reformed,&quot; and then they&#039;re shocked when we aren&#039;t like their childhood church.

But often it seems as if the denomination is all people want to know.  They don&#039;t want the conversation about what you really believe.  They just want a category into which to fit you.

Again, that&#039;s why I try to draw them out more.  I hope I don&#039;t sound mealy-mouthed (&quot;Um ... what do we believe?  Well, um, ah, the Bible and, um, Jesus....&quot;).

Sometimes, too, I&#039;ll mention some of the things that may distinguish us from the churches that the questioner is used to.  But that&#039;s tricky because our distinctives AREN&#039;T the most important thing about us.  What we have in common with other churches (e.g., belief in the Trinity) is far more significant and foundational than that we baptize infants and have liturgical worship.  So I&#039;m always reluctant to define the church by how we differ from other churches (and there&#039;s no way that we differ from ALL other churches or we&#039;d be a cult!).

So I appreciate your # 9 and it challenges me to answer questions directly.  But at the same time, I&#039;m not always sure what to say to avoid the pitfalls I&#039;ve outlined above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. # 9: I sometimes have a hard time answering the question, &#8220;What does your church believe?&#8221; because it&#8217;s too general.  I&#8217;ve also had people say things like &#8220;What kind of church is your church?&#8221; or &#8220;Well, how is your church different from all other churches?&#8221;</p>
<p>I usually try to get more information from the people before I give an answer.  For instance, when they say &#8220;What kind of church is your church?&#8221; I have no idea what they mean.  Do they mean what denomination?</p>
<p>I hate identifying our church by denomination, largely because people tend to pigeonhold and stereotype.  If I say &#8220;Reformed,&#8221; some of them will say to themselves &#8220;Oh, yeah.  That Calvinist stuff.  Not interested.&#8221;  Others will say, &#8220;Oh, good.  I grew up Reformed,&#8221; and then they&#8217;re shocked when we aren&#8217;t like their childhood church.</p>
<p>But often it seems as if the denomination is all people want to know.  They don&#8217;t want the conversation about what you really believe.  They just want a category into which to fit you.</p>
<p>Again, that&#8217;s why I try to draw them out more.  I hope I don&#8217;t sound mealy-mouthed (&#8221;Um &#8230; what do we believe?  Well, um, ah, the Bible and, um, Jesus&#8230;.&#8221;).</p>
<p>Sometimes, too, I&#8217;ll mention some of the things that may distinguish us from the churches that the questioner is used to.  But that&#8217;s tricky because our distinctives AREN&#8217;T the most important thing about us.  What we have in common with other churches (e.g., belief in the Trinity) is far more significant and foundational than that we baptize infants and have liturgical worship.  So I&#8217;m always reluctant to define the church by how we differ from other churches (and there&#8217;s no way that we differ from ALL other churches or we&#8217;d be a cult!).</p>
<p>So I appreciate your # 9 and it challenges me to answer questions directly.  But at the same time, I&#8217;m not always sure what to say to avoid the pitfalls I&#8217;ve outlined above.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok let me put a different spin on this. Isnt the purpose of a church to serve? Rather then finding what suits you, find a place that really needs your mentality and serve them. I belong to a traditional church and i&#039;m in the process of preaching the same 10 things but from within the walls, not outside. You&#039;ll be shocked to know how many Pastors are wiling to listen and put into action the suggestions of its members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok let me put a different spin on this. Isnt the purpose of a church to serve? Rather then finding what suits you, find a place that really needs your mentality and serve them. I belong to a traditional church and i&#8217;m in the process of preaching the same 10 things but from within the walls, not outside. You&#8217;ll be shocked to know how many Pastors are wiling to listen and put into action the suggestions of its members.</p>
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